I blogged about this with Kristin Hokanson on CoverItLive.com. Just in case coveritlive is blocked, the transcript is below.

2:08 Kristin: khokanson - Starting with introductions

2:09 Kristin: khokanson - Lisa Linn talking about tech requirements

2:12 Kristin: khokanson - the first thing we didn't do is look at student outcomes...has to be researched based and we haven't done that...GenYes does it but it is not happening everywhere

2:13 kajigga - In many ways, money will follow research. If we want administrative support, do we need to take the time to support our technology with research?

2:15 Kristin: khokanson - We have spent a lot of money without answering that basic question...we have spent a lot of money on eRate etc also teaching technology for the sake of technology if we spend $ on hardware and wires there is no money for integration and when we did the training it was on the software

2:16 Kristin: khokanson - It really doesn't matter what gets them in the room...it is what happens once they get there

2:16 kajigga - Softare-only training is, in my experience, ineffective. Technology is cool, but unless they know how it will help students learn, I'm not sure the teachers will have any long-term desire to use it.

2:20 kajigga - Us tech geeks need to, perhaps, engage more of our curriculum people when doing trainings. Technology will come and go, new tools also, but the ideas of
- How do I engage the students?
- Will technology really work better than traditional methods?
- How do I evaluate technology in terms of implementation, effectiveness, etc.

Technology should really be plug-and-play. It's kind of like "Backwards Design" by Wiggings and McThyge. Figure out what you want the students to know and be able to do, then decide which tools will best fit that.

2:22 Kristin: khokanson - Kevin I agree but they don't know the tech
I have been REALLY involved with my curriculum folks

2:24 kajigga - I'm trying to be so more.

2:25 kajigga - More involving of my tech folks I mean.

2:25 [Comment From Chris Harris]
teachers need the presentation to see how we can integrate the tools of technology into the classroom, but in my experience it's the follow up that is key- we need support to learn how to make it feasable- a hands on modeling with an expert that knows how to make the tool work so we can see the benefits AND learn how to make it work in our own classroom.

2:26 Kristin: khokanson - Lisa Linn...most teachers are NOT active learners...the ones here are

2:27 [Comment From Fred/Riptide]
Wait does it have to involve technology for them to be considered active learners?

2:28 kajigga - Yes, Chris. Follow up is a KEY idea! Not only do they feel like there is some long-term support, but there is a sense of accountabilty that comes with that.

2:28 Kristin: khokanson - Fred.. I don't think so... but part of the problem is that with technology it opens up a whole new world of opportunities for them
2:29 Kristin: khokanson - http://switchboard.open-source-resource.com

2:29 Fred/Riptide - I have a lot of teachers that actively learn and study about education albeit it is through "old fashioned" means

2:30 kajigga - "does it have to involve technology for them to be considered active learners?" I think not. Sometimes, in fact, I feel technology alienates those faculty that don't get recognized for those traditional means of learning and success.

2:30 Fred/Riptide - What I am trying to do is help tem learn differently.

2:30 Fred/Riptide - *them

2:32 kajigga - It's not the technology, per say, but the implementation.

2:33 Kristin: khokanson - just like we need to do with the kids...whenever I do a training...I MODEL something
so for example, diigo is a tool that I use EVERYTIME or I send links out through diigo in an email to non-users after a while they come to me and say...what is this diigo?

2:34 kajigga - Kristin, I think that works well also. It is like using a carrot used to lead a horse. :)

2:42 Chris Harris - I think it is important to be an active learner with respect to technology because our students are often more advanced with their technology skills than we are, and they are doing it on their own and getting better all the time- When we understand the current digital world, we can better direct them in their own journey so they can use their skills to maximize learning online/ enjoy learning/ and be safe. We will use a myriad of other methods to teach them as well without technology involved, but if we don't focus on technology we risk turning our back on the direction of the future- we need to prepare them for what they will find when they enter the workplace.

2:43 kajigga - These open-source web apps are great, I think they're a great option....they just need support of the IT department and administration. Most teachers are not going to be able to setup a server or install these.

2:46 Kristin: khokanson - and the district has to support it too

2:47 kajigga - Yes...It is related to the "Developing a Winning Argument for More Reasonable Filtering Policies" discussion from earlier today.

2:47 Kristin: khokanson - The big issue for us is having a server to support it...not the software itself

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